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发表于 2016-8-28 23:25:24
本帖最后由 equa 于 2016-9-1 16:27 编辑

【equa注】国内蒸汽烟玩家关于18650电池的讨论已经有很多了,这篇是vaping360和ECF论坛的资深专栏玩家Mooch的一篇综述,写得相当不错,从国外玩家的视角诠释了对优秀18650电池的看法,翻译过来给大家参考。为了解释他为什么会做这样的选择,前面用了较长的篇幅铺垫电池的基本知识,老玩家可以直接跳过看后面的结果,新人可以全篇看看,对于了解18650电池还是很有帮助的。另外还要强调一点的是,这里对18650电池的选择是基于蒸汽烟的使用特性而列出的,像手电玩家航模玩家等对18650电池的看法可能又不相同,毕竟设备侧重点和需求是不一样的。


原标题:Best 18650 Batteries for Vaping 2016
原作者:Mooch - 2016年8月18日
equa翻译自:vaping360官网(vaping360.com)


前言

我们今天来聊聊在电子烟论坛里每天都会被问到的问题:“哪个18650电池最好?”

这是个很难回答的问题!不幸的是,答案是“看情况”。有些电池续航很久,但它们无法胜任高功率放电。有些电池即使在40A电流放电都不会很热,但缺点是需要经常充电。

所以,我不能告诉你按你的用法哪种电池应该是#1,我只能告诉你我个人推荐的Top5电池、并告诉你选择的原因。我希望这能帮助你选择你想要的电池。

“最好的18650电池是哪个?”


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好电池有哪些要素?

在入选最佳电池的时候要考虑以下四个要素:
●大容量
●大电流
●电子烟工作时的高电压(暴力输出)
●工作温度低

其它比如价格也是选择因素之一,但以我的建议,这并不重要。一块电池至少可以使用一年,为购买好电池而多花的那点美金几乎可以忽略不计,因为它更好、更安全,够用一年甚至更久。



大容量

这很重要,因为这将决定你在充电前可以抽多久电子烟。

容量用毫安时(mAh)来标注,它告诉我们在在多少个小时里我们可以使用多少毫安的电量。比如,三星25R电池标注容量为2500mAh,这表示你在1小时里可以得到2500mA的电量;或者半小时得到5000mA;又或者2小时1250mA。用2500除以当前放电的电流值,就可以得到在电量用尽前放电可持续的时间。

电池的容量不能100%得到使用,因此公式只是帮你推算续航时长。你不能指着三星25R的2500mAh容量说它一定能以250A的放电电流续航0.01小时!


不过对比2块电池的额定容量,可以让你大概知道它们的续航时长。例如,3000mAh的LG HG2电池应该就要比2500mAh的三星25R续航久,而后者又要比1500mAh的LG HB6续航久。
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电子烟电池容量用毫安时来标注(mAh)

那直接买容量最大的电池不就安了吗?电池可以是大容量、或者是大电流,但没有二者兼具的,当今的电池技术还不能同时将二者塞到一枚小小的18650电池中。如果你需要大放电电流,你要牺牲一部分容量;如果你想要大容量,你就要考虑电流不会太高。当然也有一些非常棒的电池很好的平衡了此二者,大容量、大电流,兼而顾之。下面我们进一步探讨。



大电流

电子烟电池非常重要的一点是在保持不过热的同时、可以安全地大电流放电,你会想那买持续放电电流最大的电池不就好了吗?那肯定是最安全的。其实不然,还有很多其它因素要考虑。

如上文所述,电流电量二者不可兼得。如果选择最高电流的电池,那么它的容量也将大大低于另外一些其实也很安全的电池。例如,LG HB6的额定持续放电电流是30A、而且很容易冲到40A,而且是能买到的温度最低的电池,看上去是最好的选择!但是,你需要折衷考虑这块电流又大温度又低的电池的是容量。HB6只有区区1500mAh容量,这意味着你需要经常充电。
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但,要谨防许多公司的虚标电池!

选择的关键是挑选能满足你吸电子烟的习惯的电流大小即可,不要牺牲电池容量而选择你完全用不到的高电流电池。例如,比起1500mAh的30A LG HB6电池,不如选择2000mAh的25A LG HD2电池,甚至不如选择2500mAh的三星25R电池,这取决于你平时将以多大的电流来吸电子烟。

但请注意!很多公司虚标电池电流、或者只标注脉冲最大电流。你觉得买到了电流足够用的电池,结果却发现每一两个月就要更换电池,因为它们总是过热工作。我们未来会发布这类虚标电池的列表,但现在,安全的做法是只买3家大公司的电池:三星、索尼、LG。他们的标注是真实的,你用起来比较清楚。

松下电池质量也很好,但他们的电池通常只有10A放电甚至更低,这是为什么我没有推荐蒸汽客使用它的原因。

你可能对脉冲电流表示疑惑,这其实很好啊,我们抽电子烟不也是间隔点火吗?那为什么不选择脉冲电流高的电池呢?看上去其实挺不错呢!但其实本质上来说,这种电池毫无用处。

我们很不理解为什么那么多标注着高脉冲电流的电池卖得那么好。脉冲是多久?在脉冲峰值间的间隔时间是多久?电池发热温度有多高?任何2块电池的这些参数都应该相同以便于对照,但没有任何电池厂家给出了这些信息。没有这些信息,我们会发现2块60A脉冲放电的电池,一块提供3秒脉冲、一块提供6秒脉冲;一块20秒脉冲间隔、一块60秒脉冲间隔。这些不同使得这类60A额定电流的电池根本无法对照。

目前唯一对照电池额定电流的方法是持续额定放电(CDR),或者持续最大放电(MCD)、或者持续最大电流放电(MCC)(equa注:这里强调一点的是,测试的方法都是持续的,而没有所谓间断式放电的脉冲式测量方法)。他们的原理差不多,也是标准电池容量测试方法。



电子烟工作时的高电压(暴力输出)

为什么我们抽电子烟时的电压高比较好呢?

对于机械设备用户来说,高电压意味着“暴力输出”,给线圈传送了更多电流,所以造出更大的烟雾。对于有芯片的盒子来说,高电压意味着电池不需要满负荷工作。在有芯片的盒子里,电池的电压越高,电路需要的电池工作电流值就越低。

即使在相同电流工作情况下,不同的电池提供的电压数并不相同。选择工作电压高且时间长的电池,将对无论是机械设备还是带芯片设备的用户带来益处。

做这项测试是非常艰苦的,不过你可以直接在网上查看其它人的测试结果,比如 Torchy 电池男孩,Kidney Punchers,Liionwholesale,Pegasus等等,我也做过一些类似测试,请见ECF的相关文章。

其实你也不必做过多搜索阅读,一块电池如果有大容量、大电流、工作时的温度又低,基本上它的工作电压就是高的。



工作温度低

像我以前的文章里经常讨论的那样,电池的温度是非常关键的。它是导致你的电池寿命变短和损坏的最重要的原因。如果温度过高,你的电池会排气甚至会爆炸。

为维护电池寿命及安全吸电子烟,我们想尽可能地使电池在最低的温度下工作。我们可以调低功率、使用更高电阻的线圈,不过这也会影响电子烟的体验。不过因为线圈的各类繁多、功率可以随意调节,所以找到最佳的组合以使电池工作在最理想的温度状态并不困难。



可能入选的最佳TOP5电子烟18650电池列表
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这里是我个人推荐的最佳电子烟电池,列表分为三组以便不同电流的选择,并不限于仅止这些电池,不过这些是我使用过后觉得最好的。


【20A以下最佳电池】
LG HG2 3000mAh / 三星25R 2500mAh
(并列第一)

这2块电池是神奇组合了杰出的电流、良好的容量、适中的操作温度、工作时的良好电压。二者额定电流均为20A,但在20A放电时HG2比25R提供了多出15%的电量,而25R工作的温度要低几度。

VTC5和HE4也是相当不错的电池,不过稍逊于25R和HG2。在20A放电测试中他们的电压、容量都要低一些。30Q也很不错,不过测试表现不如HG2,但它仍然是块好电池,在此组表现紧随其后。


【20-30A最佳电池】
索尼VTC4 2100mAh / LG HD2 2000mAh
(并列第一)

二者在工作时均能提供高电流、良容量、好电压和低温度,它们的性能非常接近。

HB6和HB2能轻松30A放电,不过因为容量较小所以排名靠后,它们工作时的温度也很低。


【30A以上最佳电池】
LG HB6 1500mAh

HB6和HB2容量都比较小,它们是唯一可用于极高电流的电池,而且也是可用的工作温度最低的电池。

虽然HB2也非常不错,但HB6温度要更低一点、容量稍大一点、电压也稍高一点,所以它是30A以上组的冠军。



最佳TOP5电子烟18650电池榜单
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* 实际工作电流还可以高于上表,这里列出的是预留有安全值空间的电流值,以防止你的电子烟点火键处于不正常状态,比如“自动点火”、点火键卡住、或在口袋里意外按到。
* 在吸电子烟时,我们是间隔点火的,这意味着实际的工作温度要比测试中持续放电的温度低得多。这也是为什么平时可以用到比上表中的电流更高的原因。但请注意,如果用远远高于上表的电流工作、或者设备有故障,将带来电池过热或爆炸的风险。
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为什么再封装的电池没有入选?

你可能注意到只有三大电池商的电池入选,三星、索尼、LG,这是为什么?其它电池商的电池常常只是这三家出品的电池的“再封装”。还有一些没有再封装,因为它们是中国电池厂生产的。

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一个大问题是,这些电池有可能是因为三大电池厂因不达标而退货的不合格产品,这些不合格电池被收购、重新包装、标注为别的生产商,通常会被虚标,甚至比三大电池商的价格还要高。

再封装电池可能是三大电池商拒收的未通过测试的不合格电池


你可能看到所谓“鉴定”、防伪标粘贴在再封装电池上。这些标贴唯一证实的就是,这类电池是质量未知的再封装电池,意味着他们未通过标准质量测试。

当然,并不是所有再封装电池存在虚标、或使用不合格电池,有些还挺好用,可能是放电电流低于标称值。未来我们会出相关的文章来做个这类再封装电池的列表。



【原文】
Best 18650 Batteries for Vaping 2016
By Mooch - August 18, 2016134


Intro
We’re taking a little detour from the planned battery safety topics to discuss a question that is asked daily on the online vaping forums…”What’s the best 18650 battery?”.

This is a surprisingly hard question to answer! Unfortunately, the answer is “It depends”. Some batteries last a very long time before needing to be recharged, but they can’t handle being discharged at high rates. Some batteries don’t get too hot even at 40A, but they need to be recharged very often.

So, while I can’t tell you what the #1 best 18650 battery is for the way you vape, I can give you my personal choices for the top five batteries and the reasons why. I hope this will help you pick the one that best fits your vaping style.
“WHAT’S THE BEST 18650 BATTERY?”
What Makes For a Great Battery?
There are four qualities that are important to consider when picking the top batteries for vapers:

High capacity
High current rating
High voltage when vaping (“hard hitting”)
Low operating temperature.
Other things like price are part of choosing a battery but, in my opinion, aren’t as important. You should be able to use a battery for at least a year before replacing it. A couple of dollars for a better battery is almost nothing when compared to having a better, safer vape for a year or longer.

Let’s explore these four qualities that make for a great vape battery.
High Capacity
This is important because it determines how long you can vape before you need to recharge the battery.

Capacity for vaping batteries is measured in milliampere-hours (mAh). It tells us how many milliamps we can draw from the battery for how many hours. For example, the Samsung 25R has a rated capacity of 2500mAh. This means you can theoretically draw 2500mA from it for one hour. Or, 5A from it for 1/2 hour. Or 1250mA for 2 hours. As long as the current multiplied by the number of hours equals 2500, the battery is supposed to last that long before needing recharging.

Batteries aren’t 100% efficient though so that formula only works for rough comparisons of batteries. You can’t take the Samsung 25R’s 2500mAh capacity and say it will do 250A for 1/100 of an hour!

But comparing the capacity rating for two batteries will give you a general idea of which will last longer before needing to be recharged. For example, the 3000mAh LG HG2 battery should last longer than the 2500mAh Samsung 25R, which should last longer than the 1500mAh LG HB6.
LG-HG2
CAPACITY FOR VAPE BATTERIES IS MEASURED IN MILLIAMPERE-HOURS (MAH)
Why not just buy the highest capacity vape battery you can find then? Batteries can be high capacity or high current. You won’t find batteries that are both. Battery technology today just can’t fit all that into one small 18650 battery. If you need a high current rated battery, you have to sacrifice some capacity. If you need high capacity, you’ll have to settle for a lower current rating. There are some great batteries in all three categories though; high capacity, high amp, and a compromise between the two. We’ll go into more detail further on in this article.
High Current Rating
It’s important to choose a vape battery that can safely deliver the current that you need without overheating. You would think that it would be best to just buy the battery with the highest (continuous) current rating possible. This would definitely be the safest choice but there are a couple of things to consider that could make buying the highest rated battery not the best choice.

As mentioned earlier, you can have a high current rated battery or a high capacity battery, but not both. If we choose the highest current rated battery then the capacity will probably be a lot lower than other batteries that might still be plenty safe in our device. For example, the LG HB6 is rated for 30A continuous and can easily be used at 40A. It is the lowest temperature battery vapers can buy. This seems like the perfect choice! But, the tradeoff you have to make for this high current rating and low running temperature is capacity. The HB6 only has a capacity of 1500mAh. This means that you will be changing batteries a lot more often than if you used higher capacity batteries.
Samsung 25R
BUT, BE CAREFUL! MANY COMPANIES EXAGGERATE THEIR BATTERY RATINGS!
The key is to pick a battery that has just high enough a current rating to not overheat for the way you vape. That way you’re not sacrificing capacity for a current rating you’ll never really use. For example, instead of choosing the 30A LG HB6 with its 1500mAh capacity you could choose the 25A LG HD2 with its 2000mAh capacity. Or perhaps even the 2500mAh Samsung 25R. It all depends on how much current you’ll be drawing.

But, be careful! Many companies exaggerate their battery ratings or just print the pulse current rating on the battery. You might think you’re buying a battery that can easily handle the current you’ll be drawing from it only to find out that you’re replacing the battery every month or two because they’re always running hot. We’ll explore these exaggerated battery ratings in more detail in a future article but for now it’s safest to just buy batteries made by one of the Big 3; Samsung, Sony, and LG. Their ratings are accurate and you’ll know what you’re getting every time.

Panasonic is also a manufacturer of high quality, dependable batteries but most of them are rated for 10A continuous or less. This is why I don’t include them in the list of high current rated battery manufacturers for vapers.

You might have been wondering about vape battery pulse ratings. They seem to make sense. We vape by pulsing the battery so why not select a battery that has a pulse rating that matches (or exceeds) the current you need? Some of these pulse ratings sound great! But the pulse ratings on these batteries are essentially useless.

We have no idea how the pulse ratings we see on so many batteries sold to vapers were determined. How long was the pulse? How much rest time was there between pulses? How hot did they allow the battery to get? All these have to be the same for any two batteries we want to compare. And no battery manufacturer/rewrapper prints this information. Without this information we could be looking at two 60A pulse rated batteries but one used 3 second pulses and other used 10 second pulses. One could have used 20 seconds rest time between pulses and the other could have used 60 seconds. These differences make those 60A ratings impossible to compare.

The only way to compare batteries right now by their current rating is to use the continuous discharge rating, or CDR. It’s also called the MCD rating, maximum continuous discharge, or MCC, maximum continuous current rating. They’re all the same and it’s the standard for rating a battery’s capability.
High Voltage (Hard Hitting) When Vaping
Why is having a high battery voltage a good thing when we vape?

For mechanical dvice users it means that it “hits harder”, or delivers more current to the coil, so more vapor is created. For regulated device users it means that the battery doesn’t have to work as hard. The higher the battery voltage is in a regulated device, the lower the amount of current that is drawn from it by the device’s regulator circuit.

Different batteries run at different voltages even if the same amount of current is being drawn from each of them. Choosing the one that runs at the highest voltage for the longest time benefits both regulated and mechanical/unregulated device users.

Getting this information can be tough to do though. It requires that the battery be tested and the results posted for you to review. Testers like Torchy the Battery Boy, Kidney Punchers, Liionwholesale, Pegasus Vapor Academy and others have done testing. I’ve also done some testing, as Mooch in ECF and Mooch315 at the /r/electronic_cigarette subreddit.

You don’t have to search too far for the harder hitting batteries though. The batteries that have good capacity, a high current rating, and run at cooler temperatures are typically already the ones that run at a higher voltage.
Cool Running Temperature
As discussed in my previous article, battery temperature is critical. It is the top cause of premature aging and damage to your battery. If the temperature gets too high your battery can even vent or burst.

To help ensure long battery life and safe vaping we want to use the batteries that run at the lowest possible temperatures. We can run at lower power levels or use higher resistance coils, but this might interfere with the way we prefer to vape. It’s better to find the batteries that run the coolest so we have the greatest amount of freedom when choosing power settings, coils, etc.
Possible Choices For The Top Five 18650 Vape Batteries
Here are my personal choices for consideration as the best batteries for vapers. The list is divided into three groups so that we can choose the best batteries for different current levels. These groups are not the limits of the batteries, just the level at which they are best used in my opinion.
Up to 20A
The Winner For Up To 20A = it’s a tie…LG HG2 3000mAh and Samsung 25R 2500mAh
These batteries are a fantastic combination of a decent current rating, good capacity, moderate operating temperature, and good voltage while running. Both are rated at 20A but the HG2 delivers about 15% more capacity than the 25R when running at 20A. The 25R runs several degrees cooler though.

The VTC5 and HE4 are also great batteries but not quite as good as the 25R and LG HG2. In testing their voltage and capacity at 20A is a bit lower than the 25R and HG2. The 30Q is a great battery too but the HG2 performed just a bit better in testing. The HE2, while still a good battery, lags behind the others in this group in its performance.
BUY LG HG2 HERE
BUY SAMSUNG 25R HERE
The Winner For 20A-30A = it’s a another tie…Sony VTC4 2100mAh and LG HD2 2000mAh
Both of these batteries provide high current at a decent capacity with good voltages and moderate temperatures while running. They tested out very close to each other in performance.

While the HB6 and HB2 can easily handle 30A, their low capacity compared to our top two picks keeps them out of the running. They easily have the lowest temperature while running though.
GET SONY VTC4 HERE
BUY LG HD2 HERE
The Winner For 30A and higher = LG HB6 1500mAh
While both the LG HB6 and HB2 have low capacity, they are the only choice for very high current levels. They are the coolest running 18650 batteries available.

While the HB2 is a great battery, the HB6 runs a bit cooler and has a bit more capacity and voltage at the higher current levels. This makes it the number one choice above 30A.
BUY LG HB6 HERE
The Winners — The Top Five 18650 Vape Batteries
Winners up to 20A2
*You can exceed the current levels listed in this table. These are the levels that still give you a decent safety margin in case your regulated device malfunctions by not stopping when you release the button, i.e., it “autofires”. Or if your mechanical device’s button breaks, gets stuck on, or is accidentally pressed in your pocket.

When vaping we pulse our batteries. This means they run a lot cooler than they do when discharged continuously. This is why we can use them at current levels higher than the continuous rating. But if you do, be aware that there is a risk of the battery overheating or venting if you use them at current levels much higher than the ones in the table and you have a problem with your device.
Buy Authentic Batteries Here
Why Didn’t Any Rewrapped Batteries Make The List?
Orange PVC Battery Wrap
You may have noticed that only batteries from the Big 3 manufacturers are listed; Samsung, Sony, and LG. Why? The other vaping battery brands are usually just “rewrapped” cells from one of these three manufacturers. Some are from battery factories located in China though and aren’t rewraps because they don’t use batteries from the Big 3.

The big problem is that some of these rewrapped batteries can be lower grade batteries rejected by the Big 3 as not meeting the ratings during testing. These lower grade batteries are purchased, a different wrap placed around each, and they’re sold under a different company name. Often with exaggerated ratings and at a higher price than batteries from the Big 3 manufacturers.
REWRAPPED BATTERIES CAN BE LOWER GRADE BATTERIES REJECTED BY THE BIG 3 AS NOT MEETING THE RATINGS DURING TESTING
You might have seen the “authentication”, or anti-counterfeit, stickers on some rewrapped batteries lately. The only thing these stickers guarantee is that the battery is a rewrap of something else of unknown quality/grade. They don’t mean that the battery has met any type of testing or quality standard.

Not all rewraps have exaggerated ratings or use low grade batteries though. And some rewraps are perfectly ok to use. Perhaps not at their ratings, but at a lower current level that doesn’t really stress the battery. We’ll cover the issue of rewrapped batteries in more detail in a future article.

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发表于 2016-8-29 00:23:02
只用LG HG2,Sony VYC 4和三星25R。感谢分享!
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发表于 2016-8-29 01:03:22
这篇文章很有用,尤其是新手
可惜国內市場上太多假貨了,也很難分辨电池真假
獨立評測,纯玩家角度,非电子煙相关工作。
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发表于 2016-8-29 10:25:01
很不错  一直再用Vtc4   HG2
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发表于 2016-8-29 10:41:16
原来LG的这么厉害
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发表于 2016-8-29 12:33:18
yaw32s 发表于 2016-8-29 00:23
只用LG HG2,Sony VYC 4和三星25R。感谢分享!

感谢yaw大支持!
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发表于 2016-8-29 12:34:43
guitar9 发表于 2016-8-29 01:03
这篇文章很有用,尤其是新手
可惜国內市場上太多假貨了,也很難分辨电池真假

感谢兄台鼓励!
18650假货确实很多,尤其是大深圳的电池厂各种奇葩电池层出不穷。
这个主要只能找靠谱卖家了,如某某虫家的电池确实还是不错的,买过十几颗了。
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发表于 2016-8-29 12:35:21
depagoy 发表于 2016-8-29 10:25
很不错  一直再用Vtc4   HG2

差不多,我也一直都用VTC4
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发表于 2016-8-29 12:37:31
光头强 发表于 2016-8-29 10:41
原来LG的这么厉害

强哥这话说到点子上了,我刚看的时候也很奇怪,所以去ECF潜水观摩了一阵子,发现LG在西方英语系玩家中的地位很高的,各种糟蹋折磨的测试轮番上阵,最后LG的得分竟然是最高的,出人意料!
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